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Would sound like a controlled delivery to me.   This guy wanted or possibly being watched for anything else like irl dealing?     Shutty situation either way. Sorry to hear it.

Not yet, I'm going to meet with his brother now to figure out everything he knows about the situation. I'll be back to this thread later tonight as long as I don't get arrested before then. His brother told me he mentioned my name (which i told him beforehand if anything like this happened i wouldnt be mad) so wish me luck. And yes he did deal irl but they were careful and there was never any traffic going in and out of the house.

stop, drop, and roll.  you're on FIRE!!!

your friend is a victim of the circumstance.  if you go to the FBI with your story your friend is still an accomplice to the fact.  you unwittingly doomed him to some heavy time.  that whole situation really blows

update: my friends brother was able to talk to him briefly over the phone and it seems almost certain that the raid was due to the package from what he told me. They havent been selling anything for the past few months due to a lost connect and both had a clean criminal record. I'm going to speak with a lawyer tomorrow morning. Also i forgot to mention this before, I was too frantic while making the first post. When i first came home from work directly after finding out that this happened, there was a jeep parked in front of my house with someone in it. It had an abnormal lisence plate for the area but i continued to drive past my house and didn't slow down at all so i wouldn't look sketchy, but i think it had government plates. anyway after that I drove around for about 20 minutes and returned home and the car was gone. This happened around 6PM eastern time and its and nothing else like that has happened since. I'm not sure if this is a coincidence or not but I figured i should mention that. I will continue to update as i recieve new information.

100 grams of mdma, an amount id assume they would try a controlled delivery for. really sucks for you and your friend. hope all goes well, keep us in the loop $ goodluck.

Oh no that sounds grim the prisons in the US look scary too!

Did your friend open the package? This is a tricky situation if the package was unopened when they raided all your mate has to say is the pack was not his it was delivered by mistake and he was going to take it to the postal office to return to the sender the next time he was out.

If he was not making the orders then the police wouldnt find any evidence to connect him to the order and with a clean criminal record he would have been grand but we do not know the full facts as to what happened.

The problem is if he has already been arrested and did not use this story then he is in trouble because its not good to change your story.

Hope all goes well.

Good luck mate.

There are about 550 MILLION pieces of mail that go through the USPS mail system daily.  550 MILLION.   Unless the vendor is compromised, then something else is going on here.  Unless the gear were hanging out of the package, it wasn't the package that caused this.

Lol, I don't get what the point of the package being sent to your friends house is if you're telling him to name drop you if something goes wrong.

You just dug a hole for both of yous to fit in.

Don't even get me started on him calling you when the package came lol.

Not to kick a man when he's down but this is very true.  The whole purpose of sending to ur mates house in his name would be for the use of plausable deniability. Dropping your name in an event such as this only further proves his and your involvement and guilt.  Still, I feel for you all and hope therenis a way out of it.

Some one must have hacked the buyer account and turned the sale in... ahhhh poor poor buyer!

I AM SCARED!

Quote from: fallingsnow on September 12, 2014, 08:18:08 pm

There are about 550 MILLION pieces of mail that go through the USPS mail system daily.  550 MILLION.   Unless the vendor is compromised, then something else is going on here.  Unless the gear were hanging out of the package, it wasn't the package that caused this.

This is not the only person who was raided after delivery from said vendor.  The other had homeland security take him in after checking the mail.  And there aren't 550million pcs of mail coming into the country from the origin country of the package.  Also, with heightened security due to 9-11 its very plausable that customs stepped up their efforts and inspected more incoming packages.  also, its not unreasonable to assume that LE have been working on profiling packages from bulk vendors such asthe one the op used.  Its also very suspicious that there are others that are waiting longer than normal for their pack and at least one with a notice that pack needs signature when they normally dont.  If i was a customer of checkpoints with an outstanding delivery i would certainly prepare as though the pack has been compromised and take all necessary precautions in case of a worst scenario playing out. 
This actually should serve as a harsh reminder that we are not untouchable. And that we can neber get too comfortable in our dealings. Make sure your well versed on all aspects of your personal security and never let your gaurd down.  You may not always be able to avoid being arrested but if handled properly a conviction would be much harder for LE to obtain.

There is nothing in the OP's message that suggests the country of origin or a non-domestic delivery.  One would have to know that the vendor isn't from the US already.  Which I didn't know that. So the statement about 550 million pieces of mail is just a statement of fact which relates to USPS domestic mail.  I already said that the vendor being compromised is the other possibility.  Which now looks more like a fact than a possibility. And of course, some countries of origin are "hotter" than others.

I always have recommended and continue to recommend to always stay domestic when ordering off of any DM.  Avoid customs.  Too many ways to get caught that way. 

Quote from: goldendragon on September 12, 2014, 09:03:46 pm

Quote from: fallingsnow on September 12, 2014, 08:18:08 pm

There are about 550 MILLION pieces of mail that go through the USPS mail system daily.  550 MILLION.   Unless the vendor is compromised, then something else is going on here.  Unless the gear were hanging out of the package, it wasn't the package that caused this.

This is not the only person who was raided after delivery from said vendor.  The other had homeland security take him in after checking the mail.  And there aren't 550million pcs of mail coming into the country from the origin country of the package.  Also, with heightened security due to 9-11 its very plausable that customs stepped up their efforts and inspected more incoming packages.  also, its not unreasonable to assume that LE have been working on profiling packages from bulk vendors such asthe one the op used.  Its also very suspicious that there are others that are waiting longer than normal for their pack and at least one with a notice that pack needs signature when they normally dont.  If i was a customer of checkpoints with an outstanding delivery i would certainly prepare as though the pack has been compromised and take all necessary precautions in case of a worst scenario playing out. 
This actually should serve as a harsh reminder that we are not untouchable. And that we can neber get too comfortable in our dealings. Make sure your well versed on all aspects of your personal security and never let your gaurd down.  You may not always be able to avoid being arrested but if handled properly a conviction would be much harder for LE to obtain.

There is nothing in the OP's message that suggests the country of origin or a non-domestic delivery.  One would have to know that the vendor isn't from the US already.  Which I didn't know that. So the statement about 550 million pieces of mail is just a statement of fact which relates to USPS domestic mail.  I already said that the vendor being compromised is the other possibility.  Which now looks more like a fact than a possibility. And of course, some countries of origin are "hotter" than others.

I always have recommended and continue to recommend to always stay domestic when ordering off of any DM.  Avoid customs.  Too many ways to get caught that way.

Ya that's true. And ya its looks like he has been compromised in some fashion.
I absolutely agree about staying domestic-especially for bulk shipments.  The bulk prices of mdma internationally are too good to pass up I guess.   Really interested to know what TRUST has learned.  Definitely need to stay away from checkpoint until everything comes to light.

Quote from: fallingsnow on September 12, 2014, 11:06:57 pm

Quote from: goldendragon on September 12, 2014, 09:03:46 pm

Quote from: fallingsnow on September 12, 2014, 08:18:08 pm

There are about 550 MILLION pieces of mail that go through the USPS mail system daily.  550 MILLION.   Unless the vendor is compromised, then something else is going on here.  Unless the gear were hanging out of the package, it wasn't the package that caused this.

This is not the only person who was raided after delivery from said vendor.  The other had homeland security take him in after checking the mail.  And there aren't 550million pcs of mail coming into the country from the origin country of the package.  Also, with heightened security due to 9-11 its very plausable that customs stepped up their efforts and inspected more incoming packages.  also, its not unreasonable to assume that LE have been working on profiling packages from bulk vendors such asthe one the op used.  Its also very suspicious that there are others that are waiting longer than normal for their pack and at least one with a notice that pack needs signature when they normally dont.  If i was a customer of checkpoints with an outstanding delivery i would certainly prepare as though the pack has been compromised and take all necessary precautions in case of a worst scenario playing out. 
This actually should serve as a harsh reminder that we are not untouchable. And that we can neber get too comfortable in our dealings. Make sure your well versed on all aspects of your personal security and never let your gaurd down.  You may not always be able to avoid being arrested but if handled properly a conviction would be much harder for LE to obtain.

There is nothing in the OP's message that suggests the country of origin or a non-domestic delivery.  One would have to know that the vendor isn't from the US already.  Which I didn't know that. So the statement about 550 million pieces of mail is just a statement of fact which relates to USPS domestic mail.  I already said that the vendor being compromised is the other possibility.  Which now looks more like a fact than a possibility. And of course, some countries of origin are "hotter" than others.

I always have recommended and continue to recommend to always stay domestic when ordering off of any DM.  Avoid customs.  Too many ways to get caught that way.

Ya that's true. And ya its looks like he has been compromised in some fashion.
I absolutely agree about staying domestic-especially for bulk shipments.  The bulk prices of mdma internationally are too good to pass up I guess.   Really interested to know what TRUST has learned.  Definitely need to stay away from checkpoint until everything comes to light.

Really interested too.

Im nervous as fuck now.

I am not exposing this intel until I see if check is going to refund all of the users his poor packagin caused to get a raid.
This is not something we can all fuck around with.
Peoples whole lives are at stake
Trust

Agreed. This is serious shit!

I am not exposing this intel until I see if check is going to refund all of the users his poor packagin caused to get a raid.
This is not something we can all fuck around with.
Peoples whole lives are at stake
Trust

Oh I think the intel isn't hard to figure out now, at least not for a competent vendor.  It's pretty obvious now what must have happened.  There are really only two ways that unrelated buyers from all over the country can be connected with each other by LE, and any good vendor knows what they are AND AVOIDS THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE.

This vendor was apparently, unbelievably careless.  Refunding customers is the LEAST of it.  Hopefully at least SOME of the customers know how to conduct themselves in a situation like this, which is directly due to the vendor's lazy mistake.  There is no excuse.   I hope that at least some customers will know how to handle themselves if they are confronted by LE.  Some will not, and will end up in custody. 

Let is also serve as a prime example of why vending isn't for newbies.   It's not a novice venture, people.  You gotta know what you're doing, KNOW how to avoid scenarios like this one, and TAKE ACTION to avoid them. 

Trust In Us is right as rain in that it's the vendor's job to protect buyers. 

I would think inadequate stealth and dropping off multiple packs that look the same all at once to same post office.

Quote from: goldendragon on September 13, 2014, 12:33:41 am

I would think inadequate stealth and dropping off multiple packs that look the same all at once to same post office.

Of course.  But more specifically, using the same return address would link all buyers together, and so would using online postage paid for with the same (fake name) credit card.  The card wouldn't link the packages to the vendor, but it WOULD link all the buyers whose postage was paid for by that card.  Remember, the names and addresses of buyers are real.  This stuff is Vendor 101.

Thanks for explaining it for me. And now that u say it- yes I would expect any decent vendor to already know that and not make that mistake. I'm not a vendor but yeah that would seem to be basic precautions.  Especially knowing the very real consequences their buyers face if their packs are interxepted.

to me it seems more like this: "checkpoint" got raided himself and ratted his buyers out. no?

all the other explanations for what happened I read here don't make sense to me.

Quote from: 1200mics on September 13, 2014, 12:53:44 am

to me it seems more like this: "checkpoint" got raided himself and ratted his buyers out. no?

There is no evidence of that.  Besides, what would prompt the raid to begin with?  It's a possible scenario, but not the most likely one.

no, no evidence but it's the most probable story to me so far.

What prompted the raid to begin with? RL activity gone wrong? This could possibly happen to any vendor, even the once who operate highly professional and careful.

In the end they have to buy/produce the drug too somehow. many things can go wrong here and one cannot control everything. there is always some residual risk left - even for the best.

really curious now to learn what really happened!

FBi don't raid yo shit DEA does gogogog

For the record there are sevral agencys that will bust in a raid.
i know I have witnessed first hand to all of them
XD

Quote from: 1200mics on September 13, 2014, 12:53:44 am

to me it seems more like this: "checkpoint" got raided himself and ratted his buyers out. no?

If you are a buyer possibly involved in this, I have some advice for you:  SHUT THE FUCK UP.  SHUT UP! THEN SHUT UP SOME MORE!! THEN DO IT AGAIN!  You didn't order it, you know nothing about it, and you want your attorney.  That's all you know.  THEN SHUT UP!  If they cuff you up and stuff you in the car, let them.  Don't resist, and don't argue.  JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

Sounds like good advice to me.

For the record there are sevral agencys that will bust in a raid.
i know I have witnessed first hand to all of them
XD

he is correct

Quote from: Trust In Us on September 13, 2014, 08:34:46 am

For the record there are sevral agencys that will bust in a raid.
i know I have witnessed first hand to all of them
XD

he is correct

the swat team are the biggest bitches about it

Controlled delviery for sure man.
Get a laywer and make sure your friend dosn't say a word to them pigs.

Well this isn't looking good for op.

Well this isn't looking good for op.

I don't know maybe he was smart enough not to go on the darkweb and then log into the forums while he thinks he is about to be raided.

If I thought I was going to be raided I would make sure Tor and everything to do with the deepweb was wiped from my PC and not log on until at least a month later.

My 2 cents:
1.  If the delivery is late, don't sign.  A late delivery suggests time for the cops to get a warrant has caused the delay
2.  Know your mailmain and if it ain't him look out.  It may well be a cop making a controlled delivery
3. If you do sign for it always act surprised and comment that you are not expecting any packages.  Then say "it must be something my wife ordered" or something to that effect
4.  Don't open the box for a few days.  As soon as you bring the box into the house write "Return to sender" on it.
5. Take the box somewhere else and open it, destroy the box on the spot, and hide the content

very reasonable approach!

Quote from: TheSlyFox on September 16, 2014, 01:39:24 pm

Quote from: Corki on September 16, 2014, 01:05:04 pm

Well this isn't looking good for op.

I don't know maybe he was smart enough not to go on the darkweb and then log into the forums while he thinks he is about to be raided.

If I thought I was going to be raided I would make sure Tor and everything to do with the deepweb was wiped from my PC and not log on until at least a month later.

Tor isn't on your PC its on your USB.

Reason why I should post at 4 in the morning.
Herp a derp. But still going on SilkRoad fourms when you think you're about to get raided isn't a wise move.

why would anybody write "return to sender" all over their package.

it's going to end up at whatever fake return address the vendor used, so some random person will open it. either that or it will be sitting at the post office for a long time if the return address was fake

Because if you sign the package and it's an undercover cop instead of postman you just signed it basically saying it's yours and you expected it. You signed your ticket to jail.


If you act like it's from someone you don't know, you think something's wrong with it or think it's not yours you write "Return to sender" then the pigs can't get you.

 the post office could have flagged it as suspicious also

dont ever send drugs to someones house who has even the slightest dealings with drugs....

or, even better, if you're going to order something take your own damn responsibility for it. i don't see the point in using your friends address. it's YOUR shit, use YOUR drop point.


hopefully OP comes back at some point and clears everything up

Quote from: eonsurfer on September 17, 2014, 08:18:59 pm

Quote from: ilovespecialkkk1 on September 17, 2014, 08:12:26 pm

dont ever send drugs to someones house who has even the slightest dealings with drugs....

or, even better, if you're going to order something take your own damn responsibility for it. i don't see the point in using your friends address. it's YOUR shit, use YOUR drop point.


hopefully OP comes back at some point and clears everything up

There is no need to endanger your family or friends.
My real address is flagged and watched yet I still order stuff in from oversea's.

I wish I could share my OPSEC and tips with you guys but I fear vermin (LE) is watching the forums.
Still I advise you NEVER put your family/friends and loved ones at risk of getting arrested.

that's a good point, i totally agree. nobody should be putting loved ones at risk, but you shouldn't be putting the friends you love at risk either. wherever you're ordering, make sure you are responsible.

Quote from: ilovespecialkkk1 on September 17, 2014, 08:14:18 pm

the post office could have flagged it as suspicious also

wrong.

domestic packages need warrants to be opened.

sometimes local hubs will flag packages but this results in knock and talks or them "accidentally" opening it and stuff like that.

stop posting shit that you have no idea about. honestly. people are going to read this.

Do you think a knock and talk is likely to occur a couple of weeks after a package arrived?

ironically, yes.

you would think it would not be like that, but from what I have heard....it happens a bit after. I don't doubt that it could happen many other ways. odd. I know.

knock and talks are dangerous but not as dangerous as a CD even if the drop talks. they help with building evidence and starting new investigations. in any case, whoever is interviewed should refuse to speak without a lawyer, who is going to tell them not to say anything as well. if they had enough to arrest or detain the person, they would, and in any case, talking will never help.

Thanks for the information.

Really scary bc there's cpl ppl waiting for deliveries from checkpoint that havent made it yet.  Good job mentionig rhe vendor u used. May have saved someone from this situation. Prayers are with you and your buddy.

Right on GDragon!  May I add, Slayer, that you are a stand up dude.  I took it on the chin back in 2007.  I was guilty, but of only one charge.  I had to stand against 4xMan 1Xposs and weed, totalling 85 years, potentially.  Never EVER say ANYTHING.  The above post about your friend being involved no matter what you do is spot on.  You can take the hit, but you may both be hit.  In my case, the only charge that stuck is the one I was guilty of, but I pled guilty to that, the others were dropped as the fucking cops know I didn't do it all.  That being said, by me not talking, because I NEVER EVER WOULD, no one else was charged and I did mine and am finished with it. 
Now, the peeps I covered turned their backs, after the fact, and let me fall.  I expected that.  Expect that no one will stand for you.  You seem totally capable of standing on your own.
DONT GIVE THE MAN ANYTHING........THEY WILL FUCK HIM AND YOU.......

Peace and prayers, man..........

Let's see if I can figure out what happened here. Checkpoint sells MDMA in rock form, with some powder, from Belgium. OP orders 100 g from the US. US Customs checks imports over 1 oz, and probably some under if they're from a suspect country, so they would have checked this. How is anybody going to stealth 100 g of MDMA rocks and powder? MDMA is easy for dogs to sniff out. If Customs can't find 100g  of big ol rocks of MDMA wtf could they find? Probably checkpoint has been sending lots of such packages to the US so LE eventually knew his shipping profile. Ordering 100g of a commonly sold illegal drug to the US from a foreign country is pretty much asking to get arrested and charged with importing controlled substances. That's why you let someone ELSE import it and then you order it from inside the US, not from Belgium direct to your buddy, even if he's stupid enough to agree to it. He'll crack after 5 minutes of rubber hose beating and turn your ass in. However, what you do is tell them that you didn't order no MDMA from Belgium. It must have been a wrong address. How the fuck they gonna prove you ordered it? The OP probably already confessed to it, though, and is right now sitting in jail, which is why he hasn't posted lately. He may also have told his buddy that he was ordering in some MDMA and his buddy then told the FBI all about it to save his own sorry ass. This whole buy was a screwup from the start. Learn from this noob's stupidity. Also, don't post about it on the SR forum right after the raid. How many houses would the FBI raid in a certain week involving a package from Belgium with 100g of MDMA in it with checkpoint's shipping profile? Nobody on here can help you about a raid anyway so what's the point? My suggestion, if OP can still read this, is to skip the country. If the cops do accost him, hit one in the windpipe and when he bends over in pain take his gun and shoot them all and run like hell.

So are you saying that US Customs just let's 100g packages through without even opening them? Pretty lax, isn't it?

So are you saying that US Customs just let's 100g packages through without even opening them? Pretty lax, isn't it?

Where do u think domestic mdma is sourcing their product?

How do you suspect anyone importing is getting their goods in?

Risky? Sure.  Unheard of or uncommon practice? No.

The op may well have saved a lot of ppl by coming here to post his story. Mayeb he shouldn't have gone into detail but warning others is not a bad idea.

I'm interested in hearing from OP. Though it seems he/she hasn't been online in some time. Hope they didn't get the cuffs slapped on.

Quote from: Corki on September 18, 2014, 04:16:39 pm

Quote from: fallepo on September 18, 2014, 03:06:38 pm

Let's see if I can figure out what happened here. Checkpoint sells MDMA in rock form, with some powder, from Belgium. OP orders 100 g from the US. US Customs checks imports over 1 oz, and probably some under if they're from a suspect country, so they would have checked this. How is anybody going to stealth 100 g of MDMA rocks and powder? MDMA is easy for dogs to sniff out. If Customs can't find 100g  of big ol rocks of MDMA wtf could they find? Probably checkpoint has been sending lots of such packages to the US so LE eventually knew his shipping profile. Ordering 100g of a commonly sold illegal drug to the US from a foreign country is pretty much asking to get arrested and charged with importing controlled substances. That's why you let someone ELSE import it and then you order it from inside the US, not from Belgium direct to your buddy, even if he's stupid enough to agree to it. He'll crack after 5 minutes of rubber hose beating and turn your ass in. However, what you do is tell them that you didn't order no MDMA from Belgium. It must have been a wrong address. How the fuck they gonna prove you ordered it? The OP probably already confessed to it, though, and is right now sitting in jail, which is why he hasn't posted lately. He may also have told his buddy that he was ordering in some MDMA and his buddy then told the FBI all about it to save his own sorry ass. This whole buy was a screwup from the start. Learn from this noob's stupidity. Also, don't post about it on the SR forum right after the raid. How many houses would the FBI raid in a certain week involving a package from Belgium with 100g of MDMA in it with checkpoint's shipping profile? Nobody on here can help you about a raid anyway so what's the point? My suggestion, if OP can still read this, is to skip the country. If the cops do accost him, hit one in the windpipe and when he bends over in pain take his gun and shoot them all and run like hell.

CP and IMB use mylar bags and multiple vacuum sealed bags to prevent odor from permeating through the package. IMB especially has gone into length about how every step in their packaging to shipping process is separate (production and packaging don't happen in the same room, etc) and everything is wiped down with alcohol. Their packaging methods are the best and certainly better than the vast majority of US sellers. The only logical explanation for why IMB and CP both had two terrible months of seizures and busts was because of package profiling. They didn't change their packaging often enough (same stamps, envelopes, return addresses, etc).

I think they've both resolved this now.

Trust in US mentioned something in his posts about CP that was of interest. Buyers should be aware that mylar and MBB's are not the same thing. MBB bags are made by 3M and come in much thicker styles ( up to 7mm ) then no name mylar bags/wrap does.

Supposedly CP was using a form of mylar bag that wasnt the MBB. Buyer should make sure ( in fact they should DEMAND ) their vendors are using the thickest style of MBB possible.

Great point Fred, thanks for pointing this out.

Quote from: Corki on September 18, 2014, 04:16:39 pm

Quote from: fallepo on September 18, 2014, 03:06:38 pm

Let's see if I can figure out what happened here. Checkpoint sells MDMA in rock form, with some powder, from Belgium. OP orders 100 g from the US. US Customs checks imports over 1 oz, and probably some under if they're from a suspect country, so they would have checked this. How is anybody going to stealth 100 g of MDMA rocks and powder? MDMA is easy for dogs to sniff out. If Customs can't find 100g  of big ol rocks of MDMA wtf could they find? Probably checkpoint has been sending lots of such packages to the US so LE eventually knew his shipping profile. Ordering 100g of a commonly sold illegal drug to the US from a foreign country is pretty much asking to get arrested and charged with importing controlled substances. That's why you let someone ELSE import it and then you order it from inside the US, not from Belgium direct to your buddy, even if he's stupid enough to agree to it. He'll crack after 5 minutes of rubber hose beating and turn your ass in. However, what you do is tell them that you didn't order no MDMA from Belgium. It must have been a wrong address. How the fuck they gonna prove you ordered it? The OP probably already confessed to it, though, and is right now sitting in jail, which is why he hasn't posted lately. He may also have told his buddy that he was ordering in some MDMA and his buddy then told the FBI all about it to save his own sorry ass. This whole buy was a screwup from the start. Learn from this noob's stupidity. Also, don't post about it on the SR forum right after the raid. How many houses would the FBI raid in a certain week involving a package from Belgium with 100g of MDMA in it with checkpoint's shipping profile? Nobody on here can help you about a raid anyway so what's the point? My suggestion, if OP can still read this, is to skip the country. If the cops do accost him, hit one in the windpipe and when he bends over in pain take his gun and shoot them all and run like hell.

CP and IMB use mylar bags and multiple vacuum sealed bags to prevent odor from permeating through the package. IMB especially has gone into length about how every step in their packaging to shipping process is separate (production and packaging don't happen in the same room, etc) and everything is wiped down with alcohol. Their packaging methods are the best and certainly better than the vast majority of US sellers. The only logical explanation for why IMB and CP both had two terrible months of seizures and busts was because of package profiling. They didn't change their packaging often enough (same stamps, envelopes, return addresses, etc).

I think they've both resolved this now.

Trust in US mentioned something in his posts about CP that was of interest. Buyers should be aware that mylar and MBB's are not the same thing. MBB bags are made by 3M and come in much thicker styles ( up to 7mm ) then no name mylar bags/wrap does.

Supposedly CP was using a form of mylar bag that wasnt the MBB. Buyer should make sure ( in fact they should DEMAND ) their vendors are using the thickest style of MBB possible.

Finally someone hears me.
From what I understand the 2700 series of 3m MBB is the thickest.
Its what I use.
I have taken back my words on my thoughts of CP.
But yes he is using mylar not MBB.

It is up to the vendor to keep the buyer as safe as possible for what is within there control.
How you package is within your control.
Also changing up packaging regularly is something that every vendor should do. You cant allow yourself to be profiled.
Not when your that big.

Much love to check with everything given. At least he is honest enough to refund and do reships for the people who had the busts.
In other words, as long as the buyers were smart and didnt admit to anything everything will be fine. Not even a loss
Maybe a burned drop,
Trust

Hi,

First post let's see if I can offend someone.

My first thought after reading the original post is that the OPs friend has just taken the package for himself and got his brother to do some good acting on the phone. The chances are that the OP is not going to do too much sniffing around. He's not going to phone up LE and say "did you bust my friend?".

This is a horrible theory that really depends on the relationship between the OP and his friend. The OP is having an ethical dilemma about whether to take responsibility or not, when they've already made an arrangement that must have taken this risk into consideration. To me that say the OP is a nice person. Sorry, I mean the type of person a bad guy can take advantage of.

Come to think of it 100g of MDMA should make it into any local news. If the OP ever returns maybe a comment on whether that made it to the news would be good. A quick search online didn't reveal any news items like that for the period in question but maybe it is a bit early and LE has asked news not to release yet. A big bust from a SR source seems newsworthy and LE likes to say "tor doesn't mean anonymous".

Horrible theory. Sorry OP if I offended you.

It isnt a big bust. I have known people who have been busted with multiple kilos of M. Never made it to the news.
In fact my one friend didnt even go to jail.
But what would I know.
Im just a darknet drug Mdma vendor
Trust

Quote from: Mr Bump on September 19, 2014, 12:55:40 am

Come to think of it 100g of MDMA should make it into any local news. If the OP ever returns maybe a comment on whether that made it to the news would be good. A quick search online didn't reveal any news items like that for the period in question but maybe it is a bit early and LE has asked news not to release yet. A big bust from a SR source seems newsworthy and LE likes to say "tor doesn't mean anonymous".

Horrible theory. Sorry OP if I offended you.

It isnt a big bust. I have known people who have been busted with multiple kilos of M. Never made it to the news.
In fact my one friend didnt even go to jail.
But what would I know.
Im just a darknet drug Mdma vendor
Trust

Nice I managed to offend someone with my first post. Thanks for the karma trust.

Made me scratch my head wondering why you would take offense though, we have no idea if there was a raid or not. Some newbie posts he's been raided and you get annoyed when I question it. Still a quick read of checkpoint's thread makes it obvious. He's your competition and you are using some coincidences and 'possible' raids with no evidence to make it look like his stealth is getting people busted. His customers say his stealth is fine but you have your doubts yes? If his stealth is really that bad then people should stick with domestic vendors, for their own safety. Who would you recommend?

Quote from: Trust In Us on September 19, 2014, 01:18:09 am

Quote from: Mr Bump on September 19, 2014, 12:55:40 am

Come to think of it 100g of MDMA should make it into any local news. If the OP ever returns maybe a comment on whether that made it to the news would be good. A quick search online didn't reveal any news items like that for the period in question but maybe it is a bit early and LE has asked news not to release yet. A big bust from a SR source seems newsworthy and LE likes to say "tor doesn't mean anonymous".

Horrible theory. Sorry OP if I offended you.

It isnt a big bust. I have known people who have been busted with multiple kilos of M. Never made it to the news.
In fact my one friend didnt even go to jail.
But what would I know.
Im just a darknet drug Mdma vendor
Trust

Nice I managed to offend someone with my first post. Thanks for the karma trust.

Made me scratch my head wondering why you would take offense though, we have no idea if there was a raid or not. Some newbie posts he's been raided and you get annoyed when I question it. Still a quick read of checkpoint's thread makes it obvious. He's your competition and you are using some coincidences and 'possible' raids with no evidence to make it look like his stealth is getting people busted. His customers say his stealth is fine but you have your doubts yes? If his stealth is really that bad then people should stick with domestic vendors, for their own safety. Who would you recommend?

Also I will add you are a moron. He isnt my competition as not only am I not vending now, but I am a domestic only vendor. Checkpoint is in a different market then I am. Not to mention I just sent him buyers who have now bought a total of 1.5kg from him. Also many people were raided from checkpoint recently. Some of his packs were profiled. Dont fucking speak unless you read first. Check even spoke about the raids. Also domestic is always safer. Platinum standard is a safe bet.

People know me on here to be a very nice person and the only thing that could possibly make me other is someone as ignorant as you are
Trust

Platinum Standard VOUCHED..........tight stealth, great product, fast delivery.  Prices are starting to get a little rough, though

House_Lannister has some of the best stealth I have ever seen........Product, time is great as well.

Peace

well one gotta say that OP is stupid: you don't order 100g of MDMA without knowing what to do in case you get busted.

From what he is writing him and his friend basically did wrong EVERYTHING possible .

If they had just known to deny everything. at least this is something everyone who is seriously involved in the drug business should know! He obviously didn't which means one more stupid drug dealer in prison.

In this game only the smart survive.

Can't work out how to sub this :/ Following with interest.